Hi Darrell one of the biggest preoblems it seems to me is HLH's total
>> rejection of the Ice Age which he places at the time of Cain's
>> wandering over the earth and the giants of Genesis 6verse 4.
>> Holinshed also does this but no talk of an Ice Age. Thus it is fairly
>> straight forward to see how the aggriculturalists and Huntergatherers
>> fit in to one post flood rappid Ice age mainly about 2191 BC at the despersion.
>> Bergeon I doubt would not havebeen alive at the second clash of
>> Giants in the 1968 to 1938 time frame. Thus basicly I would need to
>> know how this second clash could be fitted in with my industries
>> chart. Thus the old dates still apply as you have advised me not to change them.
>> Most importently the clash of 2044 BC. John
>> Darrell I have also included Mike Oard's concept in my Ice age Model
>> by adding the 100 years from 2247 BC to 2347 BC (Icluding some ice on
>> mountain tops) we get a full total of 856 years to 1491 BC to the
>> exodus (Ice Age melt down and termination). I think this should work
>> out aboutright. What do you reckon Darrell. I have tried to show a
>> little flexibility in my handling of the ice age problem (Some of it
>> in favour of Mike Oard) John
think Mike Oard has done a masterful job in researching the ice age
> and deserves mention. I do not think another 156 years would throw
> his basic concepts off much.
>
> Darrell
Yes Darrell I think you are basicly wright. So I have in that stead been flexible by showing some ice on the mountains in 2347 BC in addition to my ice plannet concept which I think there is alot of evidence to support it so yes I'll go with the 756 yrs +100 = 856 yrs all told. John
john, the mammoths probably went extinct quite recently. The Lewis and Clark expedition was expecting to see them and had heard reports of them from the west. Mastodon remains were found above Myan ruins. This would make an interesting research project for you. The bones have also been found in association with more recent human activity in other sites as well but this is largely ignored by paleontologists. It is possible that mammoths went extinct first then mastodons.
Aig's Denial that Mammoths were Quick Frozen
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> Darrell and Dan I believe as you do
> that the Ice age or at least
> vestages of it started in 2347 BC. However as you know I
> have a
> concept that there was also an Ice Plannet strike either in
> 2247 or
> else at the time of the confusion of languages at Babel
> thus 2191 BC.
>
> This is also supported by Denis Peterson in his book
> "Unlocking the
> secrets of Creation" volume one where he talks abot the
> "Splitting of
> Continents &c. I have a critique of the review of this
> book from
> "AnswersinCreation.org" . the link is
> http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/fit/chapter15.asp
> I think
> some of the mammoths became extinct in 2191 but more likely
> about 1491
> BC. Either way the mammoths were quick frosen or became
> extinct after
> the ice age melt down which some young earth creationists
> deny. John
Reply |john hext-fremlin to Dan
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dateThu, Oct 14, 2010 at 6:23 PM
subjectRe: Aig's Denial that Mammoths were Quick Frozen
Hi Dan Nice to hear from you after all this time and thanks for the
interesting information; Although you know I tend to think the same
way as Darrell that they became extinct during the Exodus Meltdown of
Ice Age. However I need to study this in a little more detail.
By the way I'm very pleased with Darrell's timeline for Britain and
Ireland. It seems to work very well indeed. Interesting about the
survey teams Stone/Bronze/Iron and steel industries on the Lena River
in about 2295 BC according to Darrell's sources. John
Can you give me a links page on this Dan and I'll investigate it further.John
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 6:23 PM, john hext-fremlin
wrote:
> Hi Dan Nice to hear from you after all this time and thanks for the
> interesting information; Although you know I tend to think the same
> way as Darrell that they became extinct during the Exodus Meltdown of
> Ice Age. However I need to study this in a little more detail.
>
> By the way I'm very pleased with Darrell's timeline for Britain and
> Ireland. It seems to work very well indeed. Interesting about the
> survey teams Stone/Bronze/Iron and steel industries on the Lena River
> in about 2295 BC according to Darrell's sources. John
Post-Flood Ice Age?
Damien McKey and JXF
"....An Ice Age may have occurred after the Fall and also causing Cain's farming tribulations" (D.M.)
Hi Damien perhaps also the flood and the Ice Age were
Simultaneous as
sugested by Donald Wesley Patern "The Biblical Flood and the Ice
Epoch". If the polar regions were originally warmer say subtropical
owing to a water vapour cannopy then that would explain why the polar
regions are still in an Ice Age to this day would'nt you aggree?
Strange that you should mention Cain's Farming tribulations because
that is exactly what HLH sugested along with the extinction of the
"Wooly Mammoths" &c so perhaps there was an Ice age under a water
vapour cannopy.
Strange thing is there are also impact crater marks at the north pole
which would sugest to me a Fly By of an ice plannet or astroid. One
cannot easily rule it out. What about the Ammerindians crossing the
Bering Straights during the Ice age. Surely this must have been post
flood and indeed post Babel. What about the passage in the book of
Job:_ The Face of the Deep is Frozen and as Hard as Stone
I would most respectfully submit that although the Post flood Ice Age
is not mentioned by name; that what it is actually describing in
conclusion is indeed an Ice age after the flood though one of short
duration ie by my chronology 700 years. John (2191 BC to 1491 BC.